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Tallboy Carbon

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Tallboy Carbon

When Tallboy first launched, it wiped the floor with everything in its category.

Awarded “Bike of the Year” time after time, the balanced geometry and proprietary carbon lay-up created a killer package that didn’t need meddling with for over four years. And still doesn’t. Kind of.  

Geometry of the all new Tallboy2 remains true to the original. However, we've fine-tuned the shock rate, improved pedaling efficiency, increased stiffness and reduced weight to make this Don of 29 the kind of sequel Francis Ford Coppola would approve of. 

Features

  • 100mm VPP™ suspension
  • 29" wheels
  • Sizes: S, M, L, XL, + XXL in carbon only
  • 142mm rear axle spacing
  • Forged upper and lower links
  • Double sealed pivots with grease ports for low maintenance
  • Collet axle pivots- lock in place without pinch bolts.
  • Angular contact bearings maximize stiffness.
  • Standard or Direct mount rear derailleur option
  • Stealth and external seatpost cable routing
  • 73mm threaded bb: creak-free riding and easy installation
  • Molded rubber frame protection

Geometry and Sizing

Size Chart

s
5'0" — 5'5"
m
5'5" — 5'9"
l
5'9" — 6'1"
xl
6'1" — 6'3"
xxl
6'3" — 6'6"

Geometry Table

SMLXLXXL
Top Tube Length55.4mm21.9in587.2mm23.1in612.7mm24.1in638.1mm25.1in661mm26in
Seat Tube Length419.1mm16.5in444.5mm17.5in469.9mm18.5in508mm20in546.1mm21.5in
Head Tube Angle70.2°70.2°70.2°70.2°70.2°70.2°70.2°70.2°70.2°70.2°
Seat Tube Angle72.3°72.3°72.4°72.4°72.4°72.4°72.4°72.4°72.4°72.4°
BB Height331.1mm13in331.1mm13in331.1mm13in331.1mm13in331.1mm13in
Wheelbase1059.7mm41.7in1091.8mm43in1117.2mm44in1143mm45in1166.2mm45.9in
Head Tube Length90mm3.5in100mm3.9in100mm3.9in110mm4.3in120mm4.7in
Chainstay Length445.3mm17.5in445.3mm17.5in445.3mm17.5in445.3mm17.5in445.3mm17.5in
Standover Height715.1mm28.2in724.9mm28.5in736.7mm29in750.5mm29.5in766.9mm30.2in
Reach361.2mm14.2in390.2mm15.4in415.8mm16.4in438.4mm17.3in458.4mm18in
Stack610.1mm24in619.8mm24.4in620mm24.4in629.7mm24.8in639.3mm25.2in
Geometry based on 521mm axle-to-crown (120mm fork)

Shock: Fox Float CTD Evolution

Tech Info

Frame MaterialCarbon
Suspension SystemVPP
Front DerailleurDirect to Frame
Headset Diametermixed taper 1.5" Lower, 1'1/8" upper
Seat Post30.9mm
Compatible Fork Sizes100-140mm
BB ShellStandard
Max Tire Size2.35"
Brake TypesDisc, 185mm rear rotor max
Water Bottle Mounts2x bottle cage mounts

Shock Setup

Shock: Fox Float CTD Evolution

Rider WeightAir PressureShock Sag
100lbs (45.5kg)95 psi8-11 mm
120lbs (54.4kg)115 psi8-11 mm
140lbs (63.5kg)135 psi8-11 mm
160lbs (72.6kg)160 psi8-11 mm
180lbs (81.8kg)180 psi8-11 mm
200lbs (90.7kg)200 psi8-11 mm
220lbs (99.8kg)220 psi8-11 mm
240lbs (108.8kg)240 psi8-11 mm
260lbs (117.9kg)260 psi8-11 mm
280lbs (127kg)280 psi8-11 mm

Builds & Price

Frame Only

  • Tallboy Carbon frame + Float CTD4.93 lbs / 2.2 kgs$2699 USD
  • Tallboy Carbon frame + Float CTDK4.92 lbs / 2.2 kgs$2899 USD

Full Bikes

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Kits
ForksR XC 29SPX XC 29 XO-1 XC 29 XX1 XC 29 XTR XC 29 §
32 Float CTDK 100$467412.08kgs26.69lbs$565011.28kgs24.96lbs$609210.88kgs23.97lbs$742010.38kgs22.92lbs$760110.78kgs23.75lbs
32 Float CTD 120 $415012.21kgs26.99lbs$548611.41kgs25.26lbs$592811.01kgs24.27lbs$725610.51kgs23.22lbs$743710.91kgs24.05lbs
32 Float CTDK 120$467412.21kgs26.99lbs $539911.41kgs25.26lbs$609211.01kgs24.27lbs$742010.51kgs23.22lbs$760110.91kgs24.05lbs
32 Float CTD 100$451012kgs26.49lbs$548611.2kgs24.76lbs$592810.8kgs23.77lbs$725610.3kgs22.72lbs$743710.7kgs23.55lbs
  • Pricing in USD. Price and specifications subject to change without notice.
  • Price includes shock Float CTD
  • ENVE wheel upgrade available.
  • § 2X chainring upgrade available free of charge.
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F.A.Q.

Can I mount a chainguide to my bike?

Yes, this bike was designed to easily accept a BB mount chainguide. For a more XC setup, you can use top-only guides like the MRP 1x or e13 XCX. For full chainguidance, we recommend the E13 LG1 Tr, MRP Lopes guide or Mini G SL. For dual ring guides, try the E13 TRS+Dual or MRP 2x guides. These should fit with minimal or no modification.

Can I use a dropper post on this bike?

Yes- we've provided routing for both internal (stealth) and external remote cables.

It looks like the lower link is off center in my frame- is everything ok?

Yes- this is correct. With our newer pivot system, the pivot axle draws the link over to one side in order to properly preload the bearings. This offset is accounted for in the frame design so everything ends up nice and straight in the end.

Should I grease the headset cups when I install them?

Yes, we recommend this. Do not use the Carbon Assembly Compound on the headset, as it will make it more difficult to remove from the frame.

What fork sizes are recommended?

We recommend a 100 or 120mm fork. 100mm will be better if you want a quicker, more XC feel- while 120mm will offer a more forgiving ride and stability.

What is the torque spec for the front derailleur?

Torque the front derailleur to 50 in/lbs.

What is the torque spec for the seat collar?

We don't provide a torque spec for the seatpost, because it really depends on what seatpost you are using. Some seatposts are slippery, and require more torque to stay put, and others are very thin- and can be crushed by overzealous tightening. Some are both slippery and thin... Make sure you use the Carbon Assembly Compound included with your frame, and use some common sense.

You will not damage your frame by overtightening the seat collar, assuming you have a 30.9mm seatpost in it.

What kind of front derailleur do I need?

This bike uses a "high direct mount" front derailleur (bottom swing/top pull).

What kind of headset does this bike use?

We use a headset generally referred to as "mixed tapered". This is a 44mm internal upper cup, with an external 49mm lower cup. The SHIS name is ZS44/28.6 EC49/40.

What kind of rear brake adaptor do I need?

This frame uses a standard IS rear brake mount. Just pick your rotor size and order the correct adaptor to go from IS to post mount (all modern brakes).

What q-factor should I use for the cranks?

On any crank with optional Q-factor, choose the wider version.  166 for Sram XX, or 168 for XX1.  For Shimano doubles, we recommend the M980.  

What size bottom bracket shell does this bike use?

We use a standard 73mm threaded BB. Nearly any crank on the market (besides BB30 cranks) will fit.

What size hub do I need?

This bike uses a 142x12 through-axle rear hub, and includes a DT RWS axle.

What size seatpost do I need?

We use a 30.9mm seatpost. Always ensure it is inserted into the frame a minimum of 100mm (4").

What size shock does it use?

This bike uses a 165x38mm shock with 22x8mm eyelet hardware (21.8mm x 8mm for SRAM). Please do not use any other shock size or modify with eccentric shock bushings- this can cause damage or clearance issues with the frame.

Why does this frame use a standard thread-in bottom bracket, when many of your competitors use press-in style (BB30, Pressfit 30, BB90, BB92, BB86)

It is true that there are some slight weight savings available with the various pressfit bb designs (exact weight savings obviously vary depending on system, frame manufacturing techniques, and crank model), but we don't feel this small savings make up for the inconveniences. We are still able to make a frame that is lighter than most of our competitors, while still using a heavier bb system. There are a number of disadvantages that exist with press fit systems:

1) Special installation and removal tools are required for these parts, including a headset press. This is not convenient for most home mechanics, and they are quite expensive. Traditional external BB's can be installed or removed with a simple $10 hand tool.

2) "Permanently installed cups". Shimano doesn't recommend removing and re-installing their press in bb cups (as they may become damaged), so moving parts from bike to bike is no longer an option. http://techdocs.shimano.com/media/techdocs/content/cycle/SI/SI_0053A_001...

3) Creaking or shifting bb's can be common with these systems. Since the bearing is pressed into a cup, which is then pressed into the frame- it can be hard to get all of the press fits snug- without being too tight on the bearing or too loose in the frame.

4) Reasonable tube sizes. One of the most commonly claimed advantages of a larger bb shell is the larger diameter downtube that goes with it. This may be an advantage on road bikes, where tubes can be incredibly thin and large for optimal stiffness. On a mountain bike, this area of the frame sees a lot of abuse from rocks and crashing, and needs to have a certain amount of wall thickness to survive actual use. Using what we consider a "safe" wall thickness and carbon layup, and a fairly typical tube diameter, we get an exceedingly stiff, light, durable product. If we used a larger downtube, we would either have a heavier frame (same wall thickness but larger diameter), or a less durable product (thinner walls and larger diameter).

5) Chain clearance. Take a look at some of our competitors frames with press in bb shells. The down tube comes so close to the chainrings that many frames have chainsuck guards on the downtube! In our mind, the chain should be able to fall off on a mountain bike and not get jammed between your crank and thin-walled carbon downtube.

6) Backwards compatibility: Many of our customers purchase a frame and build it up with their choice of parts, or parts from an old bike. By using a standard bb, we are compatible with everything without requiring confusing adaptors.

7) Chainguide compatibility: While it may seem strange to talk about putting chainguides on a short travel bike, it is becoming more common now with 10 speed drivetrains. Thread in bb's mean the frame is compatible with bb mount chainguides. We like versatility....